Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Craig Gibson's avatar

I agree with all of the points made here, in general, about maintaining a free speech culture even when individuals say transgressive, foolish, and ridiculous things, and even celebrate violence. Our First Amendment guarantees a very wide swath of free expression short of First Amendment violations of true threats, defamations/slander, and incitements to immediate violence.

However, I probably have a few 'bad takes' here, given that you've cited Vivek Ramaswamy, who's not my reliable guide to free speech or much of anything else, and who's only recently shown much interest in civics or politics or working with divergent perspectives--seems to be a trend with some of the technology entrepreneurs from Silicon Valley who've suddenly discovered a taste for populism. A reliable guide for me would be anyone at FIRE or someone working with civic institutions like Eboo Patel of the Interfaith Alliance. But that's just my take on Ramaswamy and my perception of his new-found interest in free speech.

Also, good to see that conservative commentator Jessica Anderson is celebrating that "the right" isn't engaging in violence of any kind in response to the assassination attempt on the former President and current Presidential candidate. I applaud that lack of violence, while noting the many conspiracy theories hatched (by both sides) immediately upon the events of last Saturday, including some prominent conservatives, especially the VP nominee of the Republican Party. Did Jessica Anderson also comment at any point about her perspective on the events of January 6, 2021, which most definitely involved political violence?

My more general concern about preserving free speech culture even in extreme circumstances and even when individuals, factions, or notable figures in the political or cultural realm use violent language is this: how to maintain free speech culture in a climate of that rhetoric and intimidation? Many believe that the former President and current Presidential candidate has had at least some part creating that climate, which has had serious detriments in preserving civil discourse and making institutions viable?

Journalist Cathy Young presents a telling inventory of the violent language used by that prominent figure over the past eight years. I'd think this matters in the overall climate for free speech and civil discourse. And not for a second does it justify what happened last Saturday, but it surely presents a larger context for understanding the challenges for maintaining free expression in the current political climate.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/donald-trump-violent-rhetoric-catalogue

Expand full comment
Craig Gibson's avatar

FIRE sponsored a podcast on Political Violence and Speech that is worth listening to, featuring Nadine Strossen, Jacob Mchangama, and Flemming Rose. I highly recommend it.

https://www.thefire.org/news/podcasts/so-speak-free-speech-podcast/political-violence-and-speech

Expand full comment
16 more comments...

No posts