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James Ellroy and the Public Library. His novels are all about conspiracy.

(JE's speech maybe Not safe for work- but he gave it at the Library of Congress.)

https://kathleenmccook.substack.com/p/james-ellroy-and-the-public-library

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One initial question to this...would it be done to debunk the conspiracy theory, or would a possibly acceptable outcome be that the consensus believe the theory and that the conventional narrative is truly a conspiracy?

It would be essential for a number, if not all, of those topics to pre-establish some of the ground rules to provide a brave space for people with views that differ from the conventional narrative (I refuse to call it wisdom for what should be obvious reasons) to be comfortable meaningfully participating. And, debate might be a less-than-ideal choice for this group. I've thought that dialogue and deliberation might be more conducive to topics that have more than two poles in their possible spectrum. In framing it as a debate...there is a 'winner' and a 'loser'. There is 'right' and 'wrong'. There is likely little understanding being developed or minds being opened. In dialogue, people listen to understand (not to rebut) and speak to be understood (not to convince).

Many of the narrative (conventional and unconventional) beliefs are too tightly held for people to be willing to have them meaningfully challenged, let alone awakened to the possibility their belief (not learning or knowledge) might be wrong.

In my preliminary plans for a similar group, these are some additional conspiracies to investigate (I don't use the CIA concept of Conspiracy Theory for the same reason that I don't refer to Conventional Narrative as Conventional Theory):

• Big Tech

• #GreatReset (globalists, elites vs. the rest of us)

• Food (GMOs, random/unplanned shortages, etc.)

• 432 Hz (vs. 440)

• Gates Foundation

• Vaccines (and autism)

• Covid-19 (many components)

• cash - digital-global currency

• riots == land grab (opportunity zones)

• divide us vs. racism

• UFOs and Area 51

• Republican v Democrat (or uniparty)

• Science v antiscience

• Mis/dis/mal information v free speech v censorship

• Eugenics

• Education and (CA)SEL

• Prison Industrial Complex

• Electromagnetic fields (and the safety of wireless/cell communication)

• Mass Formation

• Free Press

Here are a few more of the thoughts I initially jotted down (please ignore their roughness and how some of the thought overlap what I wrote previously):

Perhaps not in debate style, as that promotes “winning” as opposed to understanding. Devise a way to engage in small and large groups (of people with possibly similar or differing views). More important the people understand the complexities of these conspiracies, develop tools to investigate, and learn to share their thoughts and hear others’ in a way to promote shared understanding and not in an effort to convince.

Reason to “defend” conspiracies:

As for not defending the conspiracies, I’m concerned about simply creating an “echo chamber” if everyone is trying to debunk it. I’m curious if requiring people to try to support them would provide an even better “immune response” if they have to try to understand how someone might jump from the nuggets of agreed-upon truth (documented) to whatever conspiracy they’re proposing. This is, from my naïve perspective, even more important in communities where a percentage of the population probably already believes them. And, by rotating the support/defend (if pursuing a Debate model), people may be forced to argue for something they ridicule and against something they agree with. Good mental gymnastics.

And, why “Conspiracies” and not “Conspiracy Theories?” For the same reason we don’t call what we currently living a “Reality or Common or Dominant Theory”, though everything we believe or know is based on a theory (string theory, dark matter, economy, medicine, etc.) Again, keeping things parallel to reframe perspectives and encourage open-minds.

Finally, while I might suggest a lot of potential resources to consider for alternative views on the conventional narrative, a fun place to begin would be:

"A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" https://afunnythinghappenedonthewaytothemoon.com/

Thanks for posting.

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Jul 7, 2022·edited Jul 7, 2022Author

Good point about "debates"-- I was thinking more of a "dialogue." My conception is that subjects would be approached with an open mind. Some topics might lend themselves to a pretty clear-cut debunking, but for those that don't, I think the group would most likely end up with at least a few unresolved lines of inquiry but with having learned a great deal along the way.

A mystery is a great motivator. It can bring a subject that someone may otherwise not think much about to life.

Also, although I am familiar with many subjects on your list, I would like to learn more about 5G--haven't had time for that one!

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There are many fruitful avenues here, including an understanding of the rhetorical uses of the term "conspiracy theory" -- and its associations with the exercise of power -- which is commonly used to dismiss any counter-history; when in fact any time police investigate a crime involving two or more suspects they must by definition theorize about a conspiracy. But it allows mainstream scholars and journalists to prescribe a narrow window of permissible thought. This is why I've been so fascinated for 30 years with the Shakespeare Authorship Question, which is ridiculed as a "conspiracy theory" but, in fact, must have actually involved a conspiracy of powerful actors in the courts of Elizabeth and James to conceal the great author's identity, and which has been remarkably successful for 400 years.

So yes, I'd be very interested in joining others in such a book club!

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The Shakespeare authorship question is another good one!

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